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		<title>By: Seth Gitner</title>
		<link>http://dopeblog.com/2006/10/dev-pano/comment-page-1/#comment-341</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Gitner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the majority of shooters don&#039;t &quot;get it&quot; -- that multimedia expands their storytelling.

I talked at the knight fellowship last week with robert hood and travis fox -- we were having beers and the topic came up -- who does multiemdia &quot;instinctively&quot; as part of their daily work? -- NAKA -- TRAVIS -- KASHI -- (me if they&#039;d let me out more)-- not many --

that&#039;s what needs to happen -- photographers are on the front lines to multimedia storytelling they  hold the key.

-sg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the majority of shooters don&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221; &#8212; that multimedia expands their storytelling.</p>
<p>I talked at the knight fellowship last week with robert hood and travis fox &#8212; we were having beers and the topic came up &#8212; who does multiemdia &#8220;instinctively&#8221; as part of their daily work? &#8212; NAKA &#8212; TRAVIS &#8212; KASHI &#8212; (me if they&#8217;d let me out more)&#8211; not many &#8211;</p>
<p>that&#8217;s what needs to happen &#8212; photographers are on the front lines to multimedia storytelling they  hold the key.</p>
<p>-sg</p>
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		<title>By: dance</title>
		<link>http://dopeblog.com/2006/10/dev-pano/comment-page-1/#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>dance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 02:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re so right man.

i&#039;ve been pushing this on the travel and foreign bureaus hard lately.  i&#039;m not even telling them that we have to use it.  i just want a photographer to try it.  i want to see how it would look.

sometimes it&#039;s like pulling teeth.

but i think we should have somebody coming through for us soon.  i really want somebody to drop down in darfur/chad/C.A.R./etc.  quickly pop off the photos, and be done with it.  they don&#039;t have time for a full-scale quicktime VR (or do they whit?) and we&#039;re not really looking to do that anyway.  this is built to be easy on the photographer while still dope to the reader/consumer.

when was the last time you saw a pano of a village in darfur?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re so right man.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve been pushing this on the travel and foreign bureaus hard lately.  i&#8217;m not even telling them that we have to use it.  i just want a photographer to try it.  i want to see how it would look.</p>
<p>sometimes it&#8217;s like pulling teeth.</p>
<p>but i think we should have somebody coming through for us soon.  i really want somebody to drop down in darfur/chad/C.A.R./etc.  quickly pop off the photos, and be done with it.  they don&#8217;t have time for a full-scale quicktime VR (or do they whit?) and we&#8217;re not really looking to do that anyway.  this is built to be easy on the photographer while still dope to the reader/consumer.</p>
<p>when was the last time you saw a pano of a village in darfur?</p>
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		<title>By: seth gitner</title>
		<link>http://dopeblog.com/2006/10/dev-pano/comment-page-1/#comment-339</link>
		<dc:creator>seth gitner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea thats the next step

--&gt; training the normal journalist to think interactively -- to know when to do the pano -- it should be as instinctive to the photographer as anything else they do --

I have found that the interactive developer can put the mechanisms in place but that is only 10% of it all -- the other 90% is training the content gatherers to think in a interactive way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea thats the next step</p>
<p>&#8211;&gt; training the normal journalist to think interactively &#8212; to know when to do the pano &#8212; it should be as instinctive to the photographer as anything else they do &#8211;</p>
<p>I have found that the interactive developer can put the mechanisms in place but that is only 10% of it all &#8212; the other 90% is training the content gatherers to think in a interactive way.</p>
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		<title>By: dance</title>
		<link>http://dopeblog.com/2006/10/dev-pano/comment-page-1/#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator>dance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seth, thanks for stoppin&#039; in.

initially i developed this to be used by clicking and dragging using the mouse.  here is an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gabrieldance.com/demo/pano360/timesSquare/pano.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;example of a pano of times square using this method&lt;/a&gt;.  this type of pano actually seems to work better looking in on a subject (which i suppose makes in an &#039;inverse-pano&#039;?)  check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gabrieldance.com/demo/pano360/van/pano.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this inverse-pano of a really cool van&lt;/a&gt;.

i agree that right now we&#039;re at an important point where we have the opportunity to improve and innovate in our field.  i&#039;m looking to do things a way nobody is doing them, but everybody understands and enjoys.  then we always have to keep in mind production time.  i can put together one of these panos in under 5 minutes if i have the photographs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seth, thanks for stoppin&#8217; in.</p>
<p>initially i developed this to be used by clicking and dragging using the mouse.  here is an <a href="http://www.gabrieldance.com/demo/pano360/timesSquare/pano.html" rel="nofollow">example of a pano of times square using this method</a>.  this type of pano actually seems to work better looking in on a subject (which i suppose makes in an &#8216;inverse-pano&#8217;?)  check out <a href="http://www.gabrieldance.com/demo/pano360/van/pano.html" rel="nofollow">this inverse-pano of a really cool van</a>.</p>
<p>i agree that right now we&#8217;re at an important point where we have the opportunity to improve and innovate in our field.  i&#8217;m looking to do things a way nobody is doing them, but everybody understands and enjoys.  then we always have to keep in mind production time.  i can put together one of these panos in under 5 minutes if i have the photographs.</p>
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		<title>By: seth gitner</title>
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		<dc:creator>seth gitner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kept trying to use my mouse to perform the movement.

I think that the audience is trained to do this.

you are on the money with this statement

&quot;i’m looking to create a new unique way of showing something in a way that people enjoy looking at it.&quot;

we have to think innovatively as multimedia storytellers -- all of the time, it&#039;s not replacing  --  it&#039;s thinking of new ways to tell the story better -- everything we do should be better than the last --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kept trying to use my mouse to perform the movement.</p>
<p>I think that the audience is trained to do this.</p>
<p>you are on the money with this statement</p>
<p>&#8220;i’m looking to create a new unique way of showing something in a way that people enjoy looking at it.&#8221;</p>
<p>we have to think innovatively as multimedia storytellers &#8212; all of the time, it&#8217;s not replacing  &#8212;  it&#8217;s thinking of new ways to tell the story better &#8212; everything we do should be better than the last &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: dance</title>
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		<dc:creator>dance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there were no freaks getting freaky unfortunado, vidinsky.

sound is certainly a plugin that can be done.  the plan is to add it to things such as museum statues or something.  you could rotate around it and zoom in on it and all that shiznit.

but as to your more serious comment (no seriously) i dont think it really presents any kind of inssue.  the assumption that we&#039;re trying to replace a single panoramic shot is flawed.  i&#039;m not looking to replace anything, i&#039;m looking tocreate a new unique way of showing something in a way that people enjoy looking at it.  it&#039;s certainly pano-style, but i&#039;m not really trying to replace anything.

we could certainly do the pano things nathan refers to (and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/panorama/2006/09/15/PA2006091500973.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;whitney&lt;/a&gt; does quite succesfully) but i&#039;ve said above the issues i have with quicktime vrs)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there were no freaks getting freaky unfortunado, vidinsky.</p>
<p>sound is certainly a plugin that can be done.  the plan is to add it to things such as museum statues or something.  you could rotate around it and zoom in on it and all that shiznit.</p>
<p>but as to your more serious comment (no seriously) i dont think it really presents any kind of inssue.  the assumption that we&#8217;re trying to replace a single panoramic shot is flawed.  i&#8217;m not looking to replace anything, i&#8217;m looking tocreate a new unique way of showing something in a way that people enjoy looking at it.  it&#8217;s certainly pano-style, but i&#8217;m not really trying to replace anything.</p>
<p>we could certainly do the pano things nathan refers to (and <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/panorama/2006/09/15/PA2006091500973.html" rel="nofollow">whitney</a> does quite succesfully) but i&#8217;ve said above the issues i have with quicktime vrs)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it would also be a lot cooler if there were more freaks being freaky.  and sound! gimme sound! gimme gimme!

but more seriously, folks, doesn&#039;t it present an issue, if you&#039;re looking to replace a single panoramic shot, that you&#039;ve got movement between frames?  it&#039;s cool when you&#039;re panning and you get sort of a flipbook effect with people walking or whatever, but i wonder if users would then think, &quot;well, why don&#039;t i just watch a video?&quot;

i remember checking out one of those 8mm shots nathan&#039;s talking about, of a guy&#039;s apartment in charlotte, in which you could grab and drag the photo to change perspective.  could you do something like that with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it would also be a lot cooler if there were more freaks being freaky.  and sound! gimme sound! gimme gimme!</p>
<p>but more seriously, folks, doesn&#8217;t it present an issue, if you&#8217;re looking to replace a single panoramic shot, that you&#8217;ve got movement between frames?  it&#8217;s cool when you&#8217;re panning and you get sort of a flipbook effect with people walking or whatever, but i wonder if users would then think, &#8220;well, why don&#8217;t i just watch a video?&#8221;</p>
<p>i remember checking out one of those 8mm shots nathan&#8217;s talking about, of a guy&#8217;s apartment in charlotte, in which you could grab and drag the photo to change perspective.  could you do something like that with this?</p>
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		<title>By: Whitney Shefte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whitney Shefte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice idea - I like not having to use quicktime. But I agree it&#039;s a little too fast and too sensitive. I shoot a lot of 360&#039;s.. would be interested in seeing this as an entire 360 with sky and ground to see how the controls work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice idea &#8211; I like not having to use quicktime. But I agree it&#8217;s a little too fast and too sensitive. I shoot a lot of 360&#8242;s.. would be interested in seeing this as an entire 360 with sky and ground to see how the controls work.</p>
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		<title>By: dance</title>
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		<dc:creator>dance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m surprised ur not in the pano.  i could slice you into a couple frames.

don&#039;t say i didn&#039;t offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m surprised ur not in the pano.  i could slice you into a couple frames.</p>
<p>don&#8217;t say i didn&#8217;t offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Heinz</title>
		<link>http://dopeblog.com/2006/10/dev-pano/comment-page-1/#comment-332</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Heinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 05:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin, Rich and I were talking about you while we had coffee in Bryant Park last weekend before heading out to Eddie Adams. Was that a run on sentence. You were already in DC by the time we got there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin, Rich and I were talking about you while we had coffee in Bryant Park last weekend before heading out to Eddie Adams. Was that a run on sentence. You were already in DC by the time we got there&#8230;</p>
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